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the real "down for the count" was started in 1998 by Matthew Bowen.if you see a bunch of fag- like emo kids on the photos they are the phony dftc make sure you are listening to the real genuine original down for the count. and honestly who in their right mind would pose for such a queer ass photo. remember the real dftcs albums consist of "palabras", "fin del mundo" and look for the new cd "scamerica"also if you are into metal check out "nukes of hazard" dftc's front mans side project."together we can kill emo fags and make them die" User-contributed text is available under the Creative Commons By-SA License; additional terms may apply.